It isn't noticeable. Therefore, like my Mother-in-law used to say, "You'll catch more flies with honey." Perhaps I could try to bypass that entirely. A number of amateurs fall for the hype. I generally focus on Derma Mira. It was cooked by those with a vested interest in Derma Mira. The review of Derma Mira is quite long. This sort of puts a damper on things, no?